What Determines An Option Bid/Ask Spread?

Posted by Pete Stolcers on July 27

Option Trading Question

Today Rick S. asks, “Why are some option bid/ask spreads a nickel wide and others are fifty cents wide?”

Option Trading Answer

Don’t get me started! For the most part the Specialists, Market Makers and Designated Primary Market Makers determine the spread. I will generically refer to them as DPMs. The title varies from exchange to exchange but the function is the same. They pay membership fees to be able to post option bids and offers. If the option trades actively and the stock is a big cap (GE, MSFT, CSCO…) you have a good chance of trading against another trader and the markets are much tighter. As soon as you get off the beaten path just a little, that shifts dramatically.

That’s when the DPM’s are there to “help”. This use to be a manual process and it was handled by a person on the floor. Now everything is electronically quoted, executed and cleared on less liquid issues. The large trading firms (Susquehanna, Timber Hill…) have auto-quote systems that determine the bid and ask based on the price of the stock and general option pricing algorithms (Black-Scholes).

I will say that the role of DPM is falling into more and more concentrated hands and that is not healthy. I will also say that I suspect the auto-quotes are less tied to the pricing models than they are to where the other DPM’s have their markets posted. Ever wonder why every exchange ALWAYS has the same bid and ask? Hundreds of millions of dollars spent on programming and their models are identical. Personally, I think it is electronic collusion. To make matters worse, the exchanges have lifted pricing parameters that limited how wide the DPM’s can make their market. The exchanges use to feel that having pricing rules would tighten their markets and attract order flow. Apparently protecting their deep pocket members (DPMs) is much more important. The same DPM often makes markets on same option across different exchanges.

There is also one more thing that auto-quotes base their pricing on - public orders. Yes, they can tell. Every order is designated as retail or firm (institutional).

When the exchanges imposed spread parameters, the price of the option ($1, $3, $5, $8) the bid/ask spread of the underlying and the volume of the underlying were considered. That seemed fair. Now, I’ve seen such wide markets that I’m certain they can do what ever they want. Last month I tried to get out of a call that was ITM a couple of days before expiration and the market was ridiculous. The call was $.80 in the money and the market was $1.20 bid offered at $1.50. The stock had trade 1.2 million shares with an hour left of trading (liquid stock) and that was the best they could do. That is a 25% bid/ask spread and it was shameful. I tried working the order across all exchanges and not one DPM would take me out when I was trying to sell them a nickel higher than the bid. That’s when I called the Options Industry Council (OIC) to voice a complaint and they notified me that - there are no longer spread quoting rules and, “It is what it is.”

To make matters worse, let’s say that I want to make markets and I want to improve the bid/asks as a retail customer. Every time I cancel an order, the exchange charges the brokerage firm $1 if their cancel quota has been exceeded. The brokerage firm then charges me, the trader. A handful of traders like this would put a medium size brokerage firm on the cusp of the exchange cancel quota in a hurry. How can I make a market if I can’t adjust my bid/asks without getting charged? EXCERPT: I can’t. Again, the exchanges are protecting their members. 

This is a very frustrating obstacle to trading options and I will try to give you a few pointers on how to “work an order” in my next posting.

For now, if the spread is too wide, forget the options and trade the stock. Do not leave a live order between the bid/ask in a wide market. If you do, be prepared for the worst fill ever.  You can’t afford to give away that much edge.

I told you not to get me started!

If you’ve ever had a situation where the DPMs are “taking you to the cleaners”, write a comment and I’ll try to tell you what you could have done differently.

Option Trading Comments

  • On 07/31, Rich Z said:

    I was trying to sell an current month out-of-the money SPX Call credit spread with a limit order placed at what the bid was listed from the brokerage for the spread. It sat for a couple of hours not getting filed, the bid/ask was still quoted the same as when I submitted the trade, so I tried to leg in. I bought the long option at the ask and then went to sell the short with a limit order at the bid and the price dropped like a rock and I never got filled.

  • On 08/01, Pete Stolcers said:

    Hi Richard,<br><br>In that case, you should call the order desk right away and have them status the order on the floor. It should have been electronically matched that instant. Either the order got stuck or the quotes were not updating properly. They always have the ability to represent the order verbally to the crowd and then they can relay the information back. I’m sorry to hear that especially since the market was not moving and you should have been able to get out.<br><br>Pete

  • On 08/01, Rich Z said:

    Let me clear up.. I was trying to sell to open, which would have then made me short the calls.<br>An example is the SPX 1300/1310 call spread was quoted at bid.50/ask.90. I put in a limit order for .50 cents. The SPX 1300 was quoted at 1.50/1.80 and the SPX 1310 was .80/1.00. My spread order sat a while. Then I cancelled order, then bought the SPX 1310 for 1.00 and placed the order to sell SPX 1300 @ 1.50. The bid/ask then dropped to.90/1.20. after an hour and fustrated I then sold my 1310 back for .80 and ate my .20 plus commissions loss. Prices above are not exact but from best memory.

  • On 08/02, Pete Stolcers said:

    Got it. If you see the market there on the screen and you can’t get filled, call the order desk. In this case, it looks like you should have been filled. You were giving up the whole edge on a $.50 wide spread. They will status the order with the floor. That’s their job - make them earn the commission.

  • On 11/15, Igor Goi said:

    Can you explain further “Do not leave a live order between the bid/ask in a wide market. If you do, be prepared for the worst fill ever.”

    What is the risk and what would be a better strategy?

  • On 11/15, Pete Stolcers said:

    You have to decide if you are going to buy it or work it between the bid/ask. In an ill liquid market it is often best to just pay the offer. Again, I have addressed this in this article http://www.1option.com/index.php/ask_me/comments/im_faced_with_an_ill_liquid_market_how_can_i_keep_the_market_maker_honest/

    The danger of leaving the order out there is that the Market Maker will wait until the order is just too irresistable to pass up. He knows you have “parked” the order and it is not going anywhere. He also knows that no one else is eyeing it up since there is little liquidity. When the stock moves $2 against you, he will finally take you out. Let’s say the market going in was $5.00 x $6.00 and you place an order to buy at $5.60. Then the stock moves against you and he can’t resist the edge you are giving up so he sells you the options for $5.60. If you were buying calls, he will sell them to you and buy the stock (cheap since it has dropped)to hedge the position. The market comming out is $4.00 x $5.00. Your lonely little order was artificially supporting the bid and he adjusts the market once you are filled. In an instant you are out $1.60 if you were to sell.

    If you work the order, cancel it if it has not been filled in 2-3 minutes. Don’t let them lean on your order.

  • On 04/20, WAYNE WOOD said:

    I’ve had success with trailing - stop orders to sell, so as to protect profits, while “not getting off the train.” My choices in placing the order is to base the stop on the Last, Bid or Ask prices. I understand what these prices are, but what is the best choice ??

  • On 05/01, Pete Stolcers said:

    The stock options are relatively ill liquid and I would suggest using bid or ask on the stock. It will trail much better and most platforms allow this as a choice.

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